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October 8, 2008 ladystrawberry

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  1. ladystrawberry&hellip  |  October 8, 2008 at 6:11 pm

  http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/content/image_galleries/jenny_holzer_for_london_gallery.shtml

  Jenny Holzer- ‘For London’ might be a good project to discuss for public art?? what does everyone think?
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  2. ladystrawberry&hellip  |  October 10, 2008 at 12:36 pm

  Wow – that’s pretty awesome. One thing I may suggest is if we all put our names under our posts? I know we haven’t quite worked the thing out yet (well, I haven’t anyways), but maybe until we do?!

  Rhiannon
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  3. Rhiannon&hellip  |  October 10, 2008 at 2:57 pm

  Realised that wasn’t all that useful a post in relation to the Jenny Holzer piece, which I thought was beautiful. Do we have to do our own creative work? Because the Windsor Building did that sort of thing with photographs a while back and it looked amazing. Definitely a good place to start on public art.

  I was thinking about the poems you get on the underground in London, and the promotion of a short piece that takes no time to read, and doesn’t promote anything but the train and the poet itself. Who is it aimed at? Maybe I’ll do a tour of underground trains and search them all out. Thoughts anyone?

  Rhiannon

  ps just worked out you don’t need to be signed in to leave comments. *feels stupid*
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  4. Lara&hellip  |  October 12, 2008 at 12:35 pm

  From what I understand (which isnt much) it really is just a case study that doesnt involve any creative work on our part…

  as for responses to some of those questions:
  I am particularly interested in new writing theatre and believe new writers benefit the community as they are able to comment on current affairs. (would actually like to do new writing as my case study but need to figure out how to narrow it down)
  A great example is ‘Now or Later’, on now at the Royal Court, which explores American politics and the personalities within a democratic presidential campaign.

  As for writing projects that involve communities, I definitely think devising theatre companies fall under this category. They are brought together by similar aims and beliefs and organically create a piece of theatre by using their bodies and language. Therefore, they write as a collective. Forced Entertainment, for example, use a collective voice in Emmanuel Enchanted to stage what is at times pure performance poetry.

  Since the Dada movement devised theatre has often been aimed at extending ideas to a wider public. Living Theatre (in the 50s) for example created performances aimed at releasing the repressed subconscious. Whilst companies like this often used a dramaturge to shape the ensemble collaborations the ideas were still formed and initially expressed as a collective. Joseph Chaikin (who worked with Living Theatre and went on to start the Open Theatre) likened this process to creating improvised Jazz music. (THANKYOU ‘Making a Performance’ for teaching me more then I will ever need to know about devised theatre- for those of you who haven’t read and re read it its actually surprisingly quite useful)

  I know that blast theory, for one, are a funded Devised Theatre Company, but it is completely beyond me how it was decided that they are particularly deserving of these funds. What, do you just apply and get money? Any knowledge that anyone has on funding is most welcome.

  Lara
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  5. Rosie&hellip  |  October 15, 2008 at 12:59 pm

  Wow, that would be a brilliant project to discuss for public art, especially as it incorporates famous works of literature. Also love the idea of looking at poetry on the underground, i have a book of it somewhere which i’ll try and dig up for next week, although I also think it’s also good idea to go look around tube stations to get some recent examples, and I don’t mind doing that as well as Rhi Not that it’s very relevant but i have some photos of Russian metro stations which are really beautiful, they really go to town on the stations there so should I bring those along too?
  I have a friend who’s just been comissioned to do a mural on the wall of an arts centre, so I thought i might email him and ask his opinions on it, etc.
  I don’t know if we have to do our own creative work but it could be really fun so if anyone wants to I’m up for it!
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  6. Vikki&hellip  |  October 15, 2008 at 3:36 pm

  oo this is all a bit exciting…

  as far as a group like blast theory or another devised group are concerned they probably get a lot of their funding from a specific theatre who might commission their work or the arts council that we talked about in today’s lecture with Adam.

  We might want to think about the way in which a theatre company or poetry/live art project would go about getting funding form the arts council and other locations. i imagine the royal court commission quite a lot of new work. i know lara has some info about some of their events that are going on at the moment. lara’s also write about devising companies focussing on community based work, which might be an interesting case study in itself…

  I think alex mentioned looking at national geographic, i would also be quite interested in looking at a publication or publishing house and what effect they’ve had/are having on writers etc. it’s just a work in progress but i might give it some thought and try to do some research to make it more specific.

  I’ve just had a thought about possibly looking at the history and ideas behind the national theatre and how it compares to the national theatre of Scotland, say. there’d be quite a lot to talk about for that topic, i would think. I imagine we ought to run all of these ideas past Dell next week and see what she thinks. maybe she can clarify a few ambiguous aspects of what we’re being asked to do as well.

  I thought that Lone Twin’s ‘Speeches’ would count as site specific work involving words, spoken though, not written. I can’t think of anything off the top of my head about works of public art involving written words.

  that’s all for now.

  x
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  7. ladystrawberry&hellip  |  October 21, 2008 at 7:59 pm

  Hey guys,

  This is all a bit overwhelming but I think this is the only thread… hope I’m right! Yes, Vikki is indeed right, I wanted to look at the growth of either the National Geographic, or on a more creative level maybe something to do with travel writing and its progression through the inclusion of a travel section in the weekend papers. I would appreciate some ideas for this to get off the ground though- does anyone know if this is quite what Dell had in mind for the project?

  I really like the idea of new writing in theatres- maybe good to look at forums for new writing, which include the New Vic. When I was talking to Kristen yesterday about my work she mentioned something similar to me- the progression of work from writing it to seeing it performed and how the director makes the work their own and changes it to fit a different set of ideals and objectives.

  One more thought for project work. I had the idea that it might be interesting to consider writing in fashion, for example, how is it decided who wins the Booker Prize? What attributes would the Nobel Prize judges be looking for? I wondered whether this might make for interesting study, and possibly whether the question could be expanded to include figures for chick-lit as opposed to a collection of poems by a poet laureate.

  Anyway, let me know if any of this is a bit silly or whether you can add to an idea at all!
  xxx
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  8. ladystrawberry&hellip  |  October 21, 2008 at 8:00 pm

  p.s sorry, the above comment is written by moi, alex
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  9. ladystrawberry&hellip  |  October 21, 2008 at 9:41 pm

  FROM DELL:

  “Writing and the Book”

  Kyle Schlesinger
  2pm Wednesday 22nd October 2008, IN028.

  Kyle Schlesinger lectures and writes about topics related to poetry, artists’ books and visual communication. He is the editor of Mimeo Mimeo with Jed Birmingham, and recently guest-edited a special issue of Journal of Artists’ Books with Craig Dworkin on the intersection of experimental writing and artists’ books. He is the editor of Cuneiform Press and guest publisher at this year’s Small Press Fair.

  See: http://www.kyleschlesinger.com
  http://www.cuneiformpress.com
  http://www.rgap.co.uk/spf.php

  This talk is of particular interest to students in Creative Writing (especially third years taking Creative Industries), Poetic Practice and Site Score Live students. All welcome.

  A Creative Writing and Poetic Practice TALK in The English Department at Royal Holloway, University of London.

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